Carlotta Penn is a children鈥檚 book author and the founder of . Her most recent book, , came out last summer. In addition to her literary work, she holds a PhD in education and works in the Office of Equity, Diversity and Global Engagement at Ohio State University鈥檚 College of Education.
Carlotta talks with host Hanif Abdurraqib about black characters in media, flying in dreams, styling your child's hair, having an understanding boss and why being a genius is overrated.
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